Discussion:
THE JEWISH HOLOCAUST
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Garlon3A
2005-12-25 05:33:05 UTC
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there are those who say that the jews try to focus all the attention on the
jewish victims of the holocaust while ignoring all the communists,
unionists, disabled, retarded, homosexual, gypsy, polish, and other victims.

first of all, all these groups have every right to publisize their tragedy
and inform the world of what happened to them. no one is stopping them.

secondly, the jewish component of the holocaust was indeed paramount. jews
in every country that the germans occupied were sent to their deaths. did
gypsies, leftists, and disabled people all get sent to gas chambers in
romania, italy, hungary, ukraine, and france?

what percent of the european gypsy population was killed in the holocaust?
more then 50% of european jews were killed.

now, Im no propogandist, and I know that the memory of the Holocaust is
manipulated and used by some Zionists to justify extremist israeli policies
and persecution of the palestinians. but at the same time, the misuse of
the holocaust by some zionists does not make the event fiction.
Andrew Nichols
2005-12-25 05:41:38 UTC
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Post by Garlon3A
there are those who say that the jews try to focus all the attention on the
jewish victims of the holocaust while ignoring all the communists,
unionists, disabled, retarded, homosexual, gypsy, polish, and other victims.
first of all, all these groups have every right to publisize their tragedy
and inform the world of what happened to them. no one is stopping them.
secondly, the jewish component of the holocaust was indeed paramount.
jews
Post by Garlon3A
in every country that the germans occupied were sent to their deaths. did
gypsies, leftists, and disabled people all get sent to gas chambers in
romania, italy, hungary, ukraine, and france?
what percent of the european gypsy population was killed in the holocaust?
more then 50% of european jews were killed.
now, Im no propogandist, and I know that the memory of the Holocaust is
manipulated and used by some Zionists to justify extremist israeli policies
and persecution of the palestinians. but at the same time, the misuse of
the holocaust by some zionists does not make the event fiction.
BernardZ
2005-12-25 14:06:43 UTC
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Post by Garlon3A
what percent of the european gypsy population was killed in the holocaust?
more then 50% of european jews were killed.
A net search would have answered your question. Still for those too lazy
to bother

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005219


It is not known precisely how many Roma were killed in the Holocaust.
While exact figures or percentages cannot be ascertained, historians
estimate that the Germans and their allies killed between 25 and 50
percent of all European Roma. Of the approximately one million Roma
living in Europe before the war, up to 220,000 were killed.


The answer to your question appears be far less Roma where killed in
both relative and absolute terms.

However the moral difference is huge. The camps were not built to kill
Roma, they were built to kill Jews.
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The Traveler
2005-12-26 00:08:16 UTC
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Post by BernardZ
Post by Garlon3A
what percent of the european gypsy population was killed in the holocaust?
more then 50% of european jews were killed.
A net search would have answered your question. Still for those too lazy
to bother
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005219
It is not known precisely how many Roma were killed in the Holocaust.
While exact figures or percentages cannot be ascertained, historians
estimate that the Germans and their allies killed between 25 and 50
percent of all European Roma. Of the approximately one million Roma
living in Europe before the war, up to 220,000 were killed.
The answer to your question appears be far less Roma where killed in
both relative and absolute terms.
However the moral difference is huge. The camps were not built to kill
Roma, they were built to kill Jews.
Another sad memorial on TARGETING and killing Jews:

From now on, July 18 the government province of Mendoza in Argentina
will be a memorial day to mark the anniversary of the 1994 bombing of
the Jewish Community in Buenos Aires in which 85 people were killed
and 300 wounded.

This law was passed unanimously so that on the designated day all the
flags in the province will fly at half mast. Plus every school will
teach about the event in classes.
Spaz
2005-12-26 21:29:41 UTC
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Post by Garlon3A
first of all, all these groups have every right to publisize their tragedy
and inform the world of what happened to them. no one is stopping them.
Certainly not you, and if you ever try, you will fail miserably.
Post by Garlon3A
secondly, the jewish component of the holocaust was indeed paramount.
jews in every country that the germans occupied were sent to their deaths.
did gypsies, leftists, and disabled people all get sent to gas chambers in
romania, italy, hungary, ukraine, and france?
Why don't you research that and publish your findings instead of ordering
other people to do your bidding?
Post by Garlon3A
what percent of the european gypsy population was killed in the holocaust?
While you're at it, why don't you find out what percent of African Americans
were killed during the Civil War? Don't you care?
Post by Garlon3A
now, Im no propogandist, and I know that the memory of the Holocaust is
manipulated and used by some Zionists to justify extremist israeli
policies and persecution of the palestinians.
No, you don't know that at all.
Post by Garlon3A
but at the same time, the misuse of the holocaust by some zionists does
not make the event fiction.
Nor does your baseless accusation of misuse make it non-fiction.

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