Discussion:
MUSLEMS CAN ADMIT NO FAULT
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Garlon3A
2006-01-04 23:18:09 UTC
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muslems are so arrogant about their faith, that they are incapable of
fathoming that someone who is a muslem or claims to be a muslem could commit
an act of terror. no matter nhow many times al qaeda, hamas, hezbollah,
islamic jihad, etc....takes credit for terrorist acts, many muslems refuse
to believe that muslems are really behind it.

muslems claim that a true muslem is incapable of such acts, and therefore
the acts must have been done by non-muslems trying to defame muslems. a
true faith is able to see the misdeeds of its own and the imperfections
within its own beliefs.

there are many jewish organizations in israel and outside israel that
routinely condemn israeli laws and actions that are violent or racist. why
is there not such a visible movemant within the muslem community? are
muslems perfect? are they beyond reproach? many muslems seem to feel that
way,.

the funny thing is, while many muslems claim that muslems could not have
been involved in terrorist acts, in the same breath they justify the act and
legitimate resistance to "occupation" or "colonialism". the muslems cant
have it both ways.
Joseph Welch
2006-01-04 23:24:51 UTC
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Post by Garlon3A
muslems are so arrogant about their faith, that they are incapable of
fathoming that someone who is a muslem or claims to be a muslem could
commit an act of terror.
How do you figure? Muslims all over the world understand that there are
radical Muslims who have engaged in acts of terror - and condemned them.

By the way - posting like a retard with multiple spelling errors, no
punctuation or capitalization - well, that just makes you look like a Bush
voter.
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JW
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"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
Server 13
2006-01-04 23:27:24 UTC
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Post by Joseph Welch
Post by Garlon3A
muslems are so arrogant about their faith, that they are incapable of
fathoming that someone who is a muslem or claims to be a muslem could
commit an act of terror.
How do you figure? Muslims all over the world understand that there are
radical Muslims who have engaged in acts of terror - and condemned them.
By the way - posting like a retard with multiple spelling errors, no
punctuation or capitalization - well, that just makes you look like a Bush
voter.
I doubt that's Garlon.
Neocon
2006-01-05 01:59:02 UTC
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Post by Garlon3A
muslems are so arrogant about their faith, that they are incapable of
fathoming that someone who is a muslem or claims to be a muslem could commit
an act of terror. no matter nhow many times al qaeda, hamas, hezbollah,
islamic jihad, etc....takes credit for terrorist acts, many muslems refuse
to believe that muslems are really behind it.
I don't think they commit as many of these crimes as the Ziomedia would have
us believe......

"By way of deception thou shalt do war"
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***Mexico: ONE MONTH AFTER 911!

MOSSAD/MEX BOMB ARREST
http://www.rense.com/general17/moss.htm

Attempted Terrorist Attack on the Mexican Congress by Zionists
http://aztlan.net/mexcongressterror.htm



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***Iraq

Two Undercover Agents Rescued by British May Have Been Israelis
http://judicial-inc.biz/Basra_IDF.htm


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***Venezuela:

Israeli Mossad establishing Trinidad & Tobago base against Venezuela
http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=46902


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Israeli responsible for Trinidad bombings
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

November 9, 2005 ....Such an operation aimed at Venezuela's
President Hugo Chavez may have just been uncovered in Trinidad and
Tobago.

In what may have been an attempt to stage a set of bombings in the
Caribbean oil region and point the finger at Venezuela's significant
Arab and Muslim population, a Russian-born Israeli national was
recently arrested in Port of Spain, Trinidad. Vatang Agrunov (who
uses the aliases Bhatang Agranouve and Dahtang Mik Agarunov), 26, is
being questioned by Trinidadian authorities for his connections to
four bombings in Port of Spain this year-- on July 11 on busy
Frederick Street (injuring 14 people, 2 seriously, one woman losing
her leg), August 10 on busy George Street, September 10, and
November 3. As was the case with Israeli "art students" and "movers"
who have been detained in the United States and Canada, Agrunov
played dumb, first claiming he did not steal an immigration
extension stamp that could be illegally used to grant visa
extensions in Trinidad. According to the Trinidad and Tobago
Express, in typical broken English and proffering a sob story,
Agrunov told police, "I just want to say I take the stamp and finish
this story. I don't want to stay in this country any longer. I want
to go home. I just want to finish this and go back to my country
because my family does not know what happened to me."

Agrunov had used the immigration stamp to extend his own stay in the
country. Caribbean authorities have intelligence that Agrunov is a
suspected terrorist.

Israeli terrorists in Caribbean setting the stage for attacks in
Venezuela?

Trinidad and Tobago authorities, including the Trinidad Anti-Crime
Unit, the Criminal Investigation Division, and the local Interpol
representative, are awaiting an Interpol report on Agrunov. Port of
Spain Magistrate Maureen Baboolal-Gafoor denied Agrunov bail, citing
him as a flight risk. Israeli agents have been arrested in New
Zealand and Australia on charges that they were involved in the
theft of New Zealand passports. As typical in such cases, the
Israeli government denied any knowledge of the Trinidad affair. The
Israeli embassy in Caracas, which has responsibility for Israeli
affairs in Trinidad, said it had no information on Agrunov's arrest.

The unfettered use of a Trinidad visa stamp by an Israeli false flag
cell would have permitted Israeli agents to secretly enter and exit
Venezuela via nearby Trinidad, which is only 7 miles away -- an
excellent cover for committing terrorist attacks on tourist centers
or oil installations in either Venezuela or Trinidad -- and blaming
them on "Al Qaeda" or Arabs and Muslims living in the area. The
previous bombings in Trinidad were at first blamed on local Muslim
activists.

There is also evidence that the FBI arrived in Trinidad after the
July blast to cover up for the Israelis. Local police complained
that the FBI presence was not required and Prime Minister Patrick
Manning said he was unaware that anyone had requested help from the
FBI at the time. In cases where local police and Federal agents
detained Israeli agents snooping around sensitive industrial and
military facilities in the United States, the FBI quickly had them
transferred to their control whereupon they were hurriedly deported
from the United States. In some cases, deported Israelis have
returned to the United States.
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http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/642040.html

Last update - 07:34 06/11/2005
Trinidad police detain Israeli; may be linked to bombings
By Associated Press and Haaretz Service

Trinidadian authorities have detained an Israeli national found
living in a remote mountainous area east of the capital, police said,
declining to state if he was being questioned in connection with a
recent spate of bombings in the Caribbean island nation.

A string of bombings, the latest one occuring last Thursday, have
rocked the capital of Port-of-Spain. The bombings have injured 28
people.

Authorities identified the detained man as Dahtang Mik Agarunov, 26.
They said he was found living in a wooden shack in Arouca, about 10
miles east of Port-of-Spain. Agarunov was detained on Friday and
questioned by Interpol, Trinidadian police and immigration officials.

Authorities would not say if Agarunov was being questioned in
connection with a spate of four bombings last month. No one has
claimed responsibility for the bombings or linked them to any
political movement.

"Once we have completed our investigation, we will be in a better
place to provide more detail," said Police Commissioner Trevor Paul.

Agarunov has not been charged with any crime. He arrived in Trinidad
on October 18, but authorities have not confirmed why he was visiting
the island.

The Israeli Embassy spokesman in Venezuela, Giora Loterstein, said he
was unaware of Agarunov's detention.

The Israel Embassy in Venezuela - 7 miles (11 kilometers) from
Trinidad - oversees Israeli affairs in the twin-island nation.

© Copyright Haaretz. All rights reserved
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***Jordan:
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Did Israel have Prior Knowledge of the Amman 11/9 Terror Attacks?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20051113&articleId=1238

Amman Bombings: More Suspicious Details
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=NIM20051115&articleId=1256

More fun with ceilings
http://xiaodongpeople.blogspot.com/2005/11/more-fun-with-ceilings.html

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***USA
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http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=77744&contrassID=/has%5C

Tuesday, September 23, 2003

Odigo says workers were warned of attack
By Yuval Dror

Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received
messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting
the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli
and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the
original sender of the message predicting the attack.

Micha Macover, CEO of the company, said the two workers received the
messages and immediately after the terror attack informed the company's
management, which immediately contacted the Israeli security services,
which brought in the FBI.

"I have no idea why the message was sent to these two workers, who don't
know the sender. It may just have been someone who was joking and turned
out they accidentally got it right. And I don't know if our information was
useful in any of the arrests the FBI has made," said Macover. Odigo is a
U.S.-based company whose headquarters are in New York, with offices in
Herzliya.

As an instant messaging service, Odigo users are not limited to sending
messages only to people on their "buddy" list, as is the case with ICQ, the
other well-known Israeli instant messaging application.

Odigo usually zealously protects the privacy of its registered users, said
Macover, but in this case the company took the initiative to provide the
law enforcement services with the originating Internet Presence address of
the message, so the FBI could track down the Internet Service Provider, and
the actual sender of the original message.

© Copyright 2003 Haaretz. All rights reserved

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Israeli Company Mum About WTC Pullout
http://www.americanfreepress.net/Mideast/Who_Knew_/who_knew_.html

Dancing Israelis
http://ww1.sundayherald.com/37707


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Suspicious Israeli Activity:
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http://newsobserver.com/nc24hour/ncnews/v-print/story/3575253p-3177621c.html

Sunday, May 9, 2004 4:10PM EDT

Two men arrested after high-speed chase in Tennessee

The Associated Press

ERWIN, Tenn. (AP) - Two Israeli men who led the Unicoi County sheriff on a
high-speed chase in a rented moving truck were placed under arrest and are
being investigated by the FBI, local officials said.

Shmuel Dahan and Almaliach Naor, both from Israel, were being held without
bond Sunday afternoon at the Unicoi County Jail. The truck, rented from a
Ryder office in Mars Hills, N.C., was being held in the county garage
pending an FBI investigation, officials said.

Dahan is charged with reckless driving, littering, false identification
and evading arrest, while Naor faces charges of false identification and
evading arrest, an officer with the Unicoi County Sheriff's Department who
would not give his name said Sunday.

An investigation by the FBI is ongoing and more charges are possible, he
said. A woman who answered the phone at the FBI's Knoxville office said
there was no one available to answer questions about the arrest.

The incident began late Saturday afternoon when Sheriff Kent Harris
noticed a rental truck traveling at a high speed along former U.S. Highway
23, a lightly-traveled highway near the North Carolina state line.

"I was really concerned because the driver would not stop after I flashed
my headlights for nearly three miles," Harris said. "He was weaving back
and forth and I was wondering what a large (rental truck) was doing on the
two-lane highway late Saturday afternoon instead of the faster I-26
Interstate."

Harris said he saw the men throw something from the truck while they were
being pursued. Officers scouring the area later found a vial containing an
unknown substance along the roadway, he said.

Once the men were apprehended, officers also found a "Learn to Fly"
brochure in the truck, leading Harris and others to express concern about
security at the Nuclear Fuel Services plant in Erwin.

"I got a sick feeling when I saw it," Harris said.

Dahan also gave authorities a fake Florida driver's license issues in
Plantation, Fla., he said, while Naor produced a fake identification card.

Harris subsequently contacted the FBI, the federal Bureau of Tobacco and
Firearms and other local authorities to look into the situation.

"We're not overreacting," Harris said. "We have a responsibility to
protect the citizens of Unicoi County and that's what I'm going to do at
any cost. I'd rather overreact, if that's what you call it, than be sorry
later."

© Copyright 2004, The News & Observer Publishing Company.


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Two detained by INS
http://www.kingsbayperiscope.com/stories/052704/kin_truck001.shtml

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***Egypt
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http://www.davidduke.com/index.php?p=272

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Are people being set-up?
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KHA505A.html

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Neocon
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