Discussion:
MANY JEWS DO HATE CHRISTMAS
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Garlon3A
2005-12-25 05:23:17 UTC
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Its a fact folks. many jews in the usa do indeed hate christmas. they hate
christmas...because it reminds them that they are a small minority in this
country, and that really bothers them. all the other kids had christmas
trees. all the other kids sang christmas carols. while we jews had silly
hanukah menorahs and sang lousy, barelly musical hanuhhak "songs". many
jews hate being wished "merry christmas" in stores and at work, and they
hate the yearly "christmas parties".

this is a fact. Im jewish, so I should know. But the important thing
is....its not the christian's fault that christmas makes us feel
uncomfortable. we are a small minority in this country, and we should
accept that and all that it implies. just as christians and hindus and
buddhists are a minority in israel and must adapt to being a minority in a
jewish country, so must the jews of the usa finally accept their minoroty
status and not try to deal with their insecurity by ruining the party for
the other 90% of the nation.

many jews do indeed prefer stores say "happy holidays" as opposed to "merry
christmas". they dont want to see nativity scenes. they dont want
christmas parties and celebrations at their childrens schools. some of
them indeed want religion taken completaly out of the public square and kept
locked behind closed doors. but all this anti-christmas anxst will only
backfire. christians dont like being told what they can and cant celebrate,
especially by a small minority of people. if we continue to try to deprive
90% of the usa from their culture and traditions, it will eventually
backfire, and christians will see their jewish neighbors of trying to impose
their will on the country unfarelly.

what we need to do, as jews, is be proud of our religion, our traditions,
and our culture. we should celebrate our holidays and make sure our
children our tought to be proud of their culture and not feel ashamed. send
the kids to hebrew school and make sure they have jewish friends, so that
during christmas and easter they have other jewish kids to turn to so they
dont feel like the odd man out. but demanding that 90% of america stops
fully celebrating their holiday so that 3% of america doesnt feel left out,
will win us no allies and ostrosize jews further.
Spaz
2005-12-25 09:35:29 UTC
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Post by Garlon3A
this is a fact. Im jewish, so I should know.
No, you're not. The minute you turn traitor and betray your own people, you
are no longer one of them.
Andrew Nichols
2005-12-25 11:30:19 UTC
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Post by Spaz
Post by Garlon3A
this is a fact. Im jewish, so I should know.
No, you're not. The minute you turn traitor and betray your own people, you
are no longer one of them.
cindys
2005-12-25 18:46:04 UTC
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Post by Spaz
Post by Garlon3A
this is a fact. Im jewish, so I should know.
No, you're not. The minute you turn traitor and betray your own people, you
are no longer one of them.
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What are you talking about?? This is a born non-Jewish antisemite. He was
never Jewish in the first place.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
Z
2005-12-25 14:24:27 UTC
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No, they realize that if the PC crowd can ban Christmas & the Christian
religion from the public view then they will be next. They remember how
that went in Germany years ago. It started with someone else, then the Jews
got it.
Post by Garlon3A
Its a fact folks. many jews in the usa do indeed hate christmas. they
hate christmas...because it reminds them that they are a small minority in
this country, and that really bothers them. all the other kids had
christmas trees. all the other kids sang christmas carols. while we jews
had silly hanukah menorahs and sang lousy, barelly musical hanuhhak
"songs". many jews hate being wished "merry christmas" in stores and at
work, and they hate the yearly "christmas parties".
this is a fact. Im jewish, so I should know. But the important thing
is....its not the christian's fault that christmas makes us feel
uncomfortable. we are a small minority in this country, and we should
accept that and all that it implies. just as christians and hindus and
buddhists are a minority in israel and must adapt to being a minority in a
jewish country, so must the jews of the usa finally accept their minoroty
status and not try to deal with their insecurity by ruining the party for
the other 90% of the nation.
many jews do indeed prefer stores say "happy holidays" as opposed to
"merry christmas". they dont want to see nativity scenes. they dont want
christmas parties and celebrations at their childrens schools. some of
them indeed want religion taken completaly out of the public square and
kept locked behind closed doors. but all this anti-christmas anxst will
only backfire. christians dont like being told what they can and cant
celebrate, especially by a small minority of people. if we continue to
try to deprive 90% of the usa from their culture and traditions, it will
eventually backfire, and christians will see their jewish neighbors of
trying to impose their will on the country unfarelly.
what we need to do, as jews, is be proud of our religion, our traditions,
and our culture. we should celebrate our holidays and make sure our
children our tought to be proud of their culture and not feel ashamed.
send the kids to hebrew school and make sure they have jewish friends, so
that during christmas and easter they have other jewish kids to turn to so
they dont feel like the odd man out. but demanding that 90% of america
stops fully celebrating their holiday so that 3% of america doesnt feel
left out, will win us no allies and ostrosize jews further.
Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer
2005-12-25 17:12:37 UTC
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Post by Z
No, they realize that if the PC crowd can ban Christmas & the Christian
religion from the public view then they will be next.
You must be kidding. The ACLU, which is a Jewish-run organization,
threatens school districts every year before Christmas.

They threaten to sue them if the the word 'Christmas' is displayed on
school property.
Roger
2005-12-25 19:12:42 UTC
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In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
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Post by Z
No, they realize that if the PC crowd can ban Christmas & the Christian
religion from the public view then they will be next.
You must be kidding. The ACLU, which is a Jewish-run organization,
threatens school districts every year before Christmas.
They threaten to sue them if the the word 'Christmas' is displayed on
school property.
And you can document such "th4reats," right?
L Alpert
2005-12-25 22:43:37 UTC
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Its a fact folks. many jews in the usa do indeed hate christmas. they
hate christmas...because it reminds them that they are a small
minority in this country, and that really bothers them.
Come on now sailor, you know that we love xmas. It helps us sell
non-essential goods.
t***@myrealbox.com
2005-12-26 19:56:42 UTC
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Wow - Garlon - you're quite a prolific writer. In the past few days,
you've posted dozens of strawmen articles which pretend to discredit
Jewish conspiracy fanatics. Then, you publish additional articles
which take the opposite view.

In some articles, you talk about the Jews as "them" and in other
articles you talk about the Jews as "us"

If you're going to muck-rake, at least get your story straight...
Garlon3A
2005-12-26 20:19:12 UTC
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my intention is to refer to jews whom i disagree with as "they" and jews i
do agree with as "us". when referring to the jewish community at large, I
attempt to refer to them as "us"..but Im sure I often make a mistake.

as per my articles against anti-semitic conspiracy theories, they are in
good faith. but at the same time i recognize a fascist bone withing the
jewish body that must be expunged if we are to survive as a republic and as
a people.
Post by t***@myrealbox.com
Wow - Garlon - you're quite a prolific writer. In the past few days,
you've posted dozens of strawmen articles which pretend to discredit
Jewish conspiracy fanacs. Then, you publish additional articles
which take the opposite view.
In some articles, you talk about the Jews as "them" and in other
articles you talk about the Jews as "us"
If you're going to muck-rake, at least get your story straight...
Spaz
2005-12-26 22:23:32 UTC
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Post by Garlon3A
my intention is to refer to jews whom i disagree with as "they" and jews i
do agree with as "us". when referring to the jewish community at large, I
attempt to refer to them as "us"..but Im sure I often make a mistake.
um, what is it about you that makes you think you're a Jew? I'm not
convinced at all.
serwad
2005-12-27 01:24:38 UTC
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Post by Garlon3A
my intention is to refer to jews whom i disagree with as "they" and jews i
do agree with as "us". when referring to the jewish community at large, I
attempt to refer to them as "us"..but Im sure I often make a mistake.
When the Roman historian Tacitus pointed out 19 centuries ago that the Jews
are unique among the peoples of the world in their intense hatred and
contempt for all peoples but their own, he was only repeating what many
other scholars had discovered before him. For the next 1,900 years other
investigators came to similar conclusions, either from a study of the Jews'
religious writings or from a study of the
Jews' behavior toward non-Jews.

Notable among these was the reformer, Martin Luther, who in 1543 wrote in
"Von den Juden und Ihren Lugen":

"Does not their Talmud say, and do not their rabbis write, that it is no sin
to kill if a Jew kills a heathen, but it is a sin if he kills a brother in
Israel? It is no sin if he does not keep his oath to a heathen. Therefore,
to steal and rob, as they do with their usury, from a heathen is a divine
service. For they hold that they cannot be too hard on us nor sin against
us, because they are of the noble blood and circumcised saints; we, however,
are cursed goyim. And they are the masters of the world, and we are their
servants, yea, their cattle...

"Should someone think that I am saying too much, I am not saying too much,
but much too little. For I see in their writings how they curse us goyim and
wish us all evil in their schools and their prayers."

The Jews responded to Luther like they responded to all the others. They put
him down as just another "hater," blinded by religious bigotry. And today
that's still the Jews' standard answer to everyone who says or writes
anything about them except the most fawning
praise.

serwad
2005-12-27 01:23:46 UTC
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Post by t***@myrealbox.com
Wow - Garlon - you're quite a prolific writer. In the past few days,
you've posted dozens of strawmen articles which pretend to discredit
Jewish conspiracy fanatics. Then, you publish additional articles
which take the opposite view.
In some articles, you talk about the Jews as "them" and in other
articles you talk about the Jews as "us"
If you're going to muck-rake, at least get your story straight...
When the Roman historian Tacitus pointed out 19 centuries ago that the Jews
are unique among the peoples of the world in their intense hatred and
contempt for all peoples but their own, he was only repeating what many
other scholars had discovered before him. For the next 1,900 years other
investigators came to similar conclusions, either from a study of the Jews'
religious writings or from a study of the
Jews' behavior toward non-Jews.

Notable among these was the reformer, Martin Luther, who in 1543 wrote in
"Von den Juden und Ihren Lugen":

"Does not their Talmud say, and do not their rabbis write, that it is no sin
to kill if a Jew kills a heathen, but it is a sin if he kills a brother in
Israel? It is no sin if he does not keep his oath to a heathen. Therefore,
to steal and rob, as they do with their usury, from a heathen is a divine
service. For they hold that they cannot be too hard on us nor sin against
us, because they are of the noble blood and circumcised saints; we, however,
are cursed goyim. And they are the masters of the world, and we are their
servants, yea, their cattle...

"Should someone think that I am saying too much, I am not saying too much,
but much too little. For I see in their writings how they curse us goyim and
wish us all evil in their schools and their prayers."

The Jews responded to Luther like they responded to all the others. They put
him down as just another "hater," blinded by religious bigotry. And today
that's still the Jews' standard answer to everyone who says or writes
anything about them except the most fawning
praise.
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